Re: [piecepack] Re: JCDpiecepack sample

["Karol" <karol@...>]

Okay, you asked for it. :-)
I love the pdf, very nice work as I've said before. This could just be a
preference, I'm not sure, but I don't like the swirl being used on the tiles
in place of the suit aces. Of course you are free to do what you feel is
appropriate and heck even just what you prefer. :-) But you did ask, so I
share what I think. I feel it is distracting to have the swirl instead of
the suits. I don't know if James (piecepack creator) evaluated the merits of
this in the beginning or not. I'm not gonna hazard a guess or assume
anything. I will say that usually the first way something is introduced is
sometimes seen as the "right" way -whether it is the best way or not - and
that could be coloring my opinion -plus I make the sets for MG and we did
them just like the very first set we saw from James. (He used green for his
crown and that's why we did the same with 1st and 2nd Editions). [Before
anyone blasts me about using "right": think about cross over songs on the
radio, if you listened first to a pop song and then you happen to hear the
very same song on a friend's Country station you'd recognize it but you
think "huh, that's not right" - not that you don't like it or do like it,
just that it seems different and "not quite right".) I'm not saying there
isn't room for improvement or that even the majority of folks won't disagree
with me- I could be the only fish in this pond with his particular stripe.
Another reason for my opinion (subject to change w/o notice) is that keeping
sets true to the original design makes it much easier on consumers and also
designers when they are writing up rules that use specific suits. (I do
think your Anchor makes a nice addition but I think it should be a Fluer de
Les or not called "Arms" (altho that term does help keep the set true in a
sense to the original design)- I guess anchors could be weapon, but even a
feather could pierce if it has enough speed right?). The natural thing seems
to have an expansion with the 4 typical playing card suits, I've thought
that from the beginning, however how do you tell the pawns apart? This is
one of the issues I am working on for MG.

One of the issues I've seen folks have is with the pawns, I like them, but
they are also non-directional. I'm working on a way of making directionality
optional with them, through an accessory maybe a whole different pawn but as
an addition and not a replacement. It's sometimes difficult to put an idea
into action, especially when we are talking about wooden pieces, finding
premade pieces is very cost effective, having a new design made, we are
talking about minimal orders of 5,000-10,000 pieces or more.

I really enjoy this forum, and I am very glad that you have decided to join
in the piecepack fun! And I really hope no one takes offense at my opinions,
that's just what they are and like I said subject to change w/o notice. ;-)

Karol MMB

----- Original Message -----
From: "porter235" <porter235@...>
To: <piecepack@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:16 AM
Subject: [piecepack] Re: JCDpiecepack sample


> --- In piecepack@y..., "king_toren_l" <toren_l@h...> wrote:
> > Very nice, it is very clean and crisp.
> > The only thing I would like to see you do would be to add the suit
> > symbol to the remaining 2 sides of the numbered die.
> >
> > Ken "Toren"
>
> Thanks for taking a look.
>
> You bring up an interesting point. I was going to just leave the NULL
> and ACE sides without the suit symbols because you will always be
> able to see at least one other side, and hence determine the suit. I
> was thinking that leaving them blank would maintain consistancy with
> the rest of the set... then I realized that the tiles have the null
> and swirly sides marked... so... I am definately going to take your
> suggestion into consideration.
>
> Thoughts anyone...?
>
> Jonathan.
>
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