Re: [piecepack] Croquet as a piecepack tatbletop flicking game

[Mark Biggar <mark.a.biggar@...>]

Ron Hale-Evans wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 12:03:21AM -0700, Mark Biggar wrote:
>
> > I have been going over my write up of the Croquet rules in preperation
> > to submitting them to Karol to put in the www.piecepack.org games page 
> > and it occured to me that I don't specify what it means to flick a coin.
>  
> Not surprising you should say that; I have been facing the same
> question in the Tabletop Castle Croquet rules.  (They are not based
> _textually_ on your Tabletop Croquet rules, BTW, but I am giving you
> credit for the idea of turning croquet games into piecepack flicking
> games, Mark.)

Thanks.  There are other lawn games that could be easily adapted as
well.  For example, I also working on an adaptation of Bocce/Lawn
Bowling.  Early on, on the mailing list, is a discussion of doing a
minature golf flicking game and I've put some thought into that as well.

> > So in the groups opinion:
> >
> > 1) Do I need to define flicking as part of the rules?
>
> Yes, definitely; not everyone is familiar with this sort of game, or
> understands flicking "protocols" in general.

This is an issue that will come up many time in the future.  Maybe
we should get a definition of flicking games and flicking put in the
piecepack glossary file, so that there would be a standard for all
piecepack flicking games.

> > 2) if so, what is a good definition to use?
>  
> We tried Tabletop Castle Croquet a couple of weeks ago, and one of the
> people who played with us was a Crokinole fanatic.  I asked him about
> the best way to define flicking (for my own rules), and he said the
> main thing to emphasise is that _you can only use one finger_.  (This
> is partly what I meant by "flicking protocol"; I'm sure there are some
> other little rules in Crokinole he didn't tell us.)
>
> > I guess I could crib something from one of the online Cronkinole
> > rules or from the piecepack soccer rules.
>
> This is probably a good idea.  I checked the piecepack Soccer rules
> and there's not much of a definition therein, IIRC.  I have downloaded
> some of the online Crokinole rules to my PDA but have not had much
> time to check them out lately.  They are probably a likely place to
> find a good, clear definition, though.  I would recommend grabbing
> some material on Croquet from some good public domain rules for that
> game as well, unless you expect people who play your tabletop version
> to already be familiar with the regular game.  That's what I'm going
> to do, particularly as Castle Croquet is based on the Victorian
> version of Croquet, which differs in a number of ways from the game as
> it is played today, both in rules and in game jargon.

Yeah, I've start doing similar research as well.  Another place to check
for a good definition of flicking is the Carabande racing game rules.

> BTW, in order to avoid confusion between Tabletop Croquet and Tabletop
> Castle Croquet, I am thinking of renaming the latter to Castle
> Crokinole or perhaps Castle Croquetnole. :-)

cute. :-)


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Mark Biggar
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