Re: New game added to the wiki: Piecepack Isle

["littlebrothertimmy" <littlebrothertimmy@...>]

Thanks for all the replies!

I did do a lot of copying, but also had to change quite a lot (given the nature of the piecepack components). I will contact Matt to be sure if he is okay with this. The whole idea was to make people see the potential of the piecepack system and to give the game a try if they haven't tried it.

Independent from what the law says, it still feels not all that right to me (hence the ommission of the copyright): I did not have to do any playtesting, etc. I just had to come up with a way to make this work for the piecepack. In a way that's being creative (at least I created the pdf), in anotherone's view this could be seen as a cheap way to use an existing game.

After I have received a reply from Matt, I will make the adjustments. Whether that's removing the whole game, or adding the "(c)" and "thanks to Matt Leacock".

Roger

--- In piecepack@...m, Curufea <curufea@...> wrote:
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> Rights on works and manifestations vary according to country - a good start is
> to credit the work.  Ideally (as I've recommended recently to a roleplaying
> website) - you should talk to the work's creator about accreditation and
> derivative works or manifestations.  Only then can you actually be sure what
> you're doing is the right thing.
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> If the creator doesn't know, recommend they go with their country's copyright
> laws.
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>  Peter Cobcroft
> curufea@...
> Main: http://www.curufea.com/
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> From: sshum2003 <sshum2003@...>
> To: piecepack@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 11:29:05 AM
> Subject: [piecepack] Re: New game added to the wiki: Piecepack Isle
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> Ron Hale-Evans <rwhe@> wrote:
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> > Yes. The rules for the Good Portsmanship contest covered this.
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> > http://www.ludism.org/piecepack/pp7.html
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> > Ron
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> sshum2003:  Meaningless and doesn't comply with copyright law.  That comes from
> the Copyright Office website but doesn't refect copyright law.
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> > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM, littlebrothertimmy
> > <littlebrothertimmy@> wrote:
> > > You're welcome :-)
> > >
> > > I explicitly did not add anything about the rights, since the original game
> >is still available. The rules I made are not mine, so I have no rights over
> >them. I just adapted the original rules, so this game can be played with the
> >piecepack system.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to handle a situation like this? Am I allowed to have
> >some kind of power over rules that aren't really mine (in the sense that I can
> >say these rules can be coppied, modified, and/or redistributed)?
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> sshum2003:  Given a port is a derivative work, the "porter" only has right in
> "translation" into a piecepack.  The base game still is copyrighted by the
> original designer.
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> So Piecepack Isle's copyright info should read:
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> Piecepack Isle
> (c) Roger
> based on Forbidden Island (c) original designer (or company)
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