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Re: [piecepack] Profitable sales of free-culture Piecepack (was: Sad ToyVault news)
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- Subject: Re: [piecepack] Profitable sales of free-culture Piecepack (was: Sad ToyVault news)
- From: Ron Hale-Evans <rwhe@...>
- Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 22:23:08 -0700
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By the way, it might be helpful to undertake an inventory of how games
are licensed and add a column to this table of contents on the
Piecepack Wiki:
http://www.ludism.org/ppwiki/Games
This is completely beyond me wrt free time at the moment, but I will
do what I can to support anyone who volunteers.
Ron
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Ron Hale-Evans <rwhe@...> wrote:
> You beat me to replying, Mar.
>
> Most of our early games are GFDLed, and most of our later games, such
> as the as-yet-unreleased Relativity, are under some form of CC,
> usually CC-BY-SA. I am completely open to relicensing our earlier
> games under CC-BY-SA (I'm guessing Marty is too); it's just a slightly
> tedious process, and not my highest priority at the moment, nor
> Marty's, I think.
>
> Ron
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:09 PM, M. Hale-Evans <marty@...> wrote:
>> I believe all of the games written by Ron and me are free-licensed,
>> including contest winners like Kidsprout Jumboree and Relativity, plus
>> Piecepack Letterbox, Wormholes, Snowman Meltdown, Epic Funhouse, Easy
>> Slider, and Castle Croquinole. I think there are quite a few others, but
>> it's hard to easily tell which ones on the main piecepack site listings.
>>
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Ben Finney
>> <ben+yahoogroups@...>wrote:
>>
>>> Emily Page <emily.page@...> writes:
>>>
>>> > I am constantly in a state of disgusted surprise that this whole
>>> > system hasn't been properly profited from. :) So... the latest failure
>>> > is just par for the rolling my eyes course.
>>>
>>> One thing which is needed is freely-licensed game rules. Currently there
>>> are many game rules published, but very few of them under free licenses.
>>>
>>> Free licenses entail that there are no restrictions on commercial
>>> redistribution <URL:http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC>. The Creative
>>> Commons Non-Commercial clause makes a work non-free.
>>>
>>> Free licenses entail that any modification is allowed in any
>>> redistribution of the work. The FDL (despite its name) places non-free
>>> restrictions on modification, and the No-Derivatives clause of the
>>> Creative Commons licenses also makes a work non-free.
>>>
>>> It's unfortunate that “Creative Commons” includes options for making a
>>> work free, and also options for making a work non-free. The brand isn't
>>> helpful for distinguishing the freedom of a work.
>>>
>>> <URL:
>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/09352711499/creative-commons-branding-confusion.shtml
>>> >
>>>
>>> I recommend the CC-BY-SA-3.0 license as being a free-culture license
>>> that still provides the necessary protections for the work and the
>>> copyright holder.
>>>
>>> <URL:http://questioncopyright.org/cc-pro>
>>> <URL:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/>
>>>
>>> > I am still waiting for a fast food chain to make it a collectible
>>> > thing with their logo on the back.
>>>
>>> If there were a body of Piecepack game rules under free-culture
>>> licenses, that might be more possible: anyone could reformat them and
>>> translate them and modify them and mass-produce them and profit from
>>> them, without needing further license negotiation.
>>>
>>> What I'd really love is for a large number of the popular existing
>>> Piecepack games to be released under a free-culture license like
>>> CC-BY-SA-3.0.
>>>
>>> What I hope for is that we encourage all future Piecepack games to be
>>> released under free-culture licenses, without restriction on format nor
>>> modification nor commercial redistribution.
>>>
>>> > But I think I'm a bit on the unusual side on the list here... :)
>>>
>>> I hope not.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> `\ view is automatically as worthy of respect as any equal and |
>>> _o__) opposite view.” —Douglas Adams |
>>> Ben Finney
>>>
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