Re: [piecepack] publishing modified piecepack games on the wiki

[Chris Sakkas <sanglorian@...>]

While it's true that people don't need to ask permission to edit particular
pages of a wiki, all successful wikis have rules and guidelines - thank you
for asking, Jessica, so that people could decide upon the rules and
guidelines.

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 at 11:33 'Daniel Ajoy' da.ajoy@... [piecepack] <
piecepack@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I think it is pretty much whatever you wish to do.
>
> Notice however that, being a wiki, each page as a history of changes:
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> http://www.ludism.org/ppwiki?action=history;id=ZombieInMyPiecepack
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> If anyone cares enough about it they'll intervene.
>
> The whole idea of a wiki is that people shouldn't ask permission to make
> changes. But that changes, if they are eventually considered harmful, can
> be easily reverted.
>
> Daniel
>
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> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 21:36:27 -0500, Jessica Eccles jade@...
> [piecepack] <piecepack@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to get a feel for the etiquette around publishing
> > modifications to existing piecepack games on the wiki. I have read
> > through the entire archives of the mailing list (quite a while ago now)
> > but I don't recall this being discussed.
> >
> > Presumably someone who modified an existing game (assuming the original
> > is under a licence that allows publishing modified versions) could just
> > replace the current version on the wiki with their new version. But
> > unlike Wikipedia where articles are (ideally) a matter of fact, games
> > are more like art in that they are a matter of taste and two very
> > similar artworks may appeal to different people. However having 10
> > versions of what is essentially the same game in the games list may
> > flood it just as openclipart.org is flooded by endless remixed
> > variations of essentially the same clipart (this problem is reduced
> > somewhat by the search feature but that doesn't help if you're just
> > browsing).
> >
> > Looking at precedent:
> > - Many of the rules pages have links to two versions of the rules in the
> > rules section already (pdf and text, although the content is the same
> > sans pictures).
> >
> > - On the Alien City page a link to the updated version of the rules has
> > just been added in the Rules section rather than replacing the link to
> > the old rules, even though they are from the game's original author. The
> > header of the Alien city page currently refers to the version number and
> > date of the first version (probably just because no one thought to
> > change the header when the updated rules were uploaded).
> >
> > - A couple of games (Men Overboard, Zombie in my Piecepack and possibly
> > others) don't have links to rules, but rather have the rules on the game
> > page itself. Editing these pages replaces the earlier rules. On the
> > Zombie in my Piecepack page the author section mentions that the rules
> > were edited by Ron Hale-Evans (though this editing may have happened
> > before the game was put on the wiki).
> >
> > - Tula variants (alternate layouts for Tula) have their own entry in the
> > Games list. There are also a few variants for Tula mentioned in the
> > comments on the Tula page, but they are absent from the rules document.
> >
> > - There are two different versions of Senat, each with their own entry
> > in the games list (plus Pub-sCrawl which is Senat with a theme).
> >
> > - There is one Chess page with an alternative way of using a piecepack
> > to play Chess in the comments.
> >
> >
> > My suggestion is that anyone who has modified a game try to contact the
> > original author (maybe they could even collaborate to improve the game
> > further) who would no doubt be interested to see what others are doing
> > with their work. If the original author also thinks the modification is
> > an improvement then the new rules can replace the old rules in the rules
> > section. And the header can be updated with the newest version
> information.
> >
> > However if the original author and the modifier are of different minds
> > about which version is better (or the original author is not
> > contactable) then the rules section on the game page could link to both
> > sets of rules, but maybe with a little blurb about what the differences
> > are so that different prospective players can have some idea of which
> > version they're likely to prefer. I'm not sure what to do about the
> > header though.
> >
> > In the case of games where the rules are in the game page rather than
> > being a separate document the rules for each version would need to be
> > put on a separate page (eg. CoolGameV1-0 and CoolGameV1-1) and linked to
> > in the rules section of the main game page.
> >
> > However if the modifications are not changing the gameplay, just
> > expressing it more clearly or correcting spelling or grammar mistakes,
> > or any gameplay changes are added as optional variants rather than
> > replacing the original rules then I think it would be fine to just
> > replace the current rules on the wiki.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > cheers
> >   - Jessica
> >
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> > Posted by: Jessica Eccles <jade@...>
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